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Sunday, November 17, 2013

On returning the Parthenon Marbles

On the 11th of June, 2012, Cadogan Hall was the stage for a debate hosted by Intelligence Squared on one of the most controversial political landmines between Great Britain and modern Greece: the Parthenon Marbles. The hall hosted a debate--two in favor, two against--the return of said marbles to Greece with the goal of convincing at least the audience of their standpoint. Speaking against the motion were Felipe Fernández-Armesto, a William P Reynolds Professor of History at the University of Notre Dame, and Tristram Hunt, broadcaster, historian and newspaper columnist, and the Labour MP for Stoke-on-Trent Central. Speaking in favor of the motion were Andrew George, Chair of Marbles Reunite, and Liberal Democrat MP for St Ives, and actor, writer, comedian, and broadcaster, Stephen Fry.

556 people watched the 45 minute debate. In a poll taken before the event asking audience members if they would like the marbles to be returned to Greece, 196 voted for, 202 against and 158 didn’t know. Then this happened:


 
The Parthenon Marbles, also known as the Elgin Marbles, is a collection of classical Greek marble sculptures, inscriptions and architectural members that originally were part of the Parthenon and other buildings on the Acropolis of Athens. Thomas Bruce, the 7th Earl of Elgin obtained a controversial permit from the Ottoman authorities to remove pieces from the Parthenon while serving as the British ambassador to the Ottoman Empire from 1799 to 1803.
 
The Parthenon Marbles acquired by Elgin include seventeen figures from the statuary from the east and west pediments of the Parthenon, fifteen (of the original 92) of the metope panels depicting battles between the Lapiths and the Centaurs, as well as 247 feet (75 meters) of the original 524 feet (160 meters) of the Parthenon Frieze which decorated the horizontal course set above the interior architrave of the temple. As such, they represent more than half of what now remains of the surviving sculptural decoration of the Parthenon. Elgin's acquisitions also included objects from other buildings on the Athenian Acropolis: a Caryatid from Erechtheum; four slabs from the parapet frieze of the Temple of Athena Nike; and a number of other architectural fragments of the Parthenon, Propylaia, Erechtheum, the Temple of Athena Nike, and the Treasury of Atreus.
 
As Stephen Fry explains during the debate, the legality of the purchase of these marbles is controversial at best. Yes, the documents were signed by the leaders of Greece at the time, but these were the occupation. As Fry so beautifully explains, it would have been like purchacing the Nightwatch from the Dutch during Nazi German occupation; the Nightwatch would not have rightfully belonged to the Germans at the time of purchase and I am quite sure it would have been returned to my country as soon as possible after the war. So, why are the Parthenon Marbles still in a British museum?
 
There are many reasons for and against returning the marbles to Athens, where a museum was opened in 2009 which would be capable of showcasing these precious items. I'm going to borrow Wikipedia for a list of the pro's and con's tied to returning the marbles:
 
 Rationale for returning to Athens:
  • The main stated aim of the Greek campaign is to reunite the Parthenon sculptures around the world in order to restore "organic elements" which "at present remain without cohesion, homogeneity and historicity of the monument to which they belong" and allow visitors to better appreciate them as a whole;
  • Presenting all the extant Parthenon Marbles in their original historical and cultural environment would permit their "fuller understanding and interpretation";
  • Precedents have been set with the return of fragments of the monument by Sweden, the University of Heidelberg, Germany, the Getty Museum in Los Angeles and the Vatican;
  • That the marbles may have been obtained illegally and hence should be returned to their rightful owner;
  • Returning the Parthenon sculptures (it should be noted that Greece is requesting only the return of sculptures from this particular building) would not set a precedent for other restitution claims because of the distinctively "universal value" of the Parthenon;
  • Safekeeping of the marbles would be ensured at the New Acropolis Museum, situated to the south of the Acropolis hill. It was built to hold the Parthenon sculpture in natural sunlight that characterises the Athenian climate, arranged in the same way as they would have been on the Parthenon. The museum's facilities have been equipped with state-of-the-art technology for the protection and preservation of exhibits;
  • The friezes are part of a single work of art, thus it is nonsensical that fragments of this piece be scattered across different locations, just as it would be nonsensical, for example, to have pieces of the Mona Lisa scattered across different locations;
  • Casts of the marbles would be just as able to demonstrate the cultural influences which Greek sculptures have had upon European art as would the original marbles, whereas the context with which the marbles belong cannot be replicated within the British museum.
 
Rationale for retaining in London:
  • The assertion that fulfilling all restitution claims would empty most of the world's great museums – this has also caused concerns among other European and American museums, with one potential target being the famous bust of Nefertiti in Berlin's Neues Museum; in addition, portions of Parthenon marbles are kept by many other European museums, so the Greeks would then establish a precedent to claim these other artworks;
  • Some scholars argue that the marbles were saved from what would have been severe damage from pollution and other factors, which could have perhaps destroyed the marbles, if they had been located in Athens the past few hundred years;
  • Experts agree that Greece could mount no court case because Elgin was granted permission by what was then Greece's ruling government and a legal principle of limitation would apply, i.e. the ability to pursue claims expires after a period of time prescribed by law;
  • More than half the original marbles are lost and therefore the return of the Elgin Marbles could never complete the collection in Greece. In addition, many of the marbles are too fragile to travel from London to Athens;
  • Display in the British museum puts the sculptures in a European artistic context, alongside the work of art which both influenced and was influenced by Greek sculpture. This allows parallels to be drawn with the art of other cultures;
  • The notion that the Parthenon sculptures are an item of global rather than solely Greek significance strengthens the argument that they should remain in a museum which is both free to visit, and located in one of Europe's most visited cities. The government of Greece intends to charge visitors of the New Acropolis Museum, where they can view the marbles (as of 2011 the price is €5).
  • A legal position that the museum is banned by charter from returning any part of its collection.
I have made it clear before that I feel any piece of ancient Hellenic art should--at least on paper--be returned to their country of origin. I feel that way about all historical art. That doesn't mean I feel that all pieces should be physically returned to their country of origin; not even Greece needs al they pottery returned to them and every statue ever made; taking care of this classical art takes time, money, and space, and especially Greece right now would struggle to provide all three right now if the whole world suddenly gave back all their art pieces. That said, there are exceptions--like the Parthenon Marbles. these are so specific, so telling of history, that they should return to where they were first created. The Parthenon Marbles belong in Athens. The British Museum in London can put on display casts of the marbles, or a movie of the time they stent in Britain, or a 3D print. They wouldn't have to be removed from the museum all together, but these marbles--I feel--need to go home.
 
It's been a long fight to get the marbles returned, and so far, nothing has happened. As for the debate: the audience was asked to take the same poll after the debate. This time, the poll showed a majority of 384 voting in favour of returning the marbles. Where do you stand on the issue? And have your viewpoints changed after watching the debate?

4 comments:

  1. My viewpoint, for what it's worth, is that this argument basically boils down to should the Elgin Marbles be in a British Museum or a Greek Museum? If the Marbles were sent back to Athens, they wouldn't be put back on the Parthenon and most of them wouldn't be visible to mere mortals even if they were - they were designed only to be visible to the gods; instead, they're going to sit in a museum that already has casts of them on display. So saying they need to be repatriated to Athens seems more of a collecting instinct in the style of Pokemon (gotta catch them all…) rather than because the public is going to be better off and better able to see them in Athens than in Greece. Indeed, the British Museum gets 5.8m visitors a year and the Acropolis Museum gets 1.3m visitors a year, so many more people will get the chance to see them if they stay in Britain than in Athens.

    The flipside of the argument is that if the British Museum did return the Marbles, the Athenian Museum of Archaeology, for example, would morally be required to return its entire Cypriot collection to Cyprus (both north and south), everything Turkish to Turkey, everything Roman to Italy and so on; one could even argue that the Athenian museum has no rights to any of the Spartan works it currently exhibits, Sparta having been a separate polis from Athens for hundreds of years. Indeed, morally that repatriation should be done first to demonstrate the importance of this form of retroactive ownership. Except it's never going to happen, of course.

    As for the legality of British ownership, the Nazi comparison isn't really valid. Passing aside the issue of whether or not Elgin used bribes (show me anything important in Athens that _doesn't_ require 'fakalakia' even to this day…), Greece had been part of the Ottoman Empire for 300 years when Elgin bought the marbles. Arguing that the Ottomans weren't the true rulers of Greece and that Greece was under occupation at that time is like arguing that Northern Ireland isn't part of the UK or that Catalonia isn't really part of Spain and they're both under occupation - it's an argument, but a very debatable one. More importantly, if you bought anything from the Spanish government that currently resided in Barcelona right now (eg a plot of land), should you be forced to return it if Catalonia achieved independence from Spain, because when you bought it you were actually taking loot it from foreign occupiers? I don't think so.

    Elgin went through the procedures - if they can be described as that - that were appropriate for the time and saved the marbles from who knows what (including the Greeks' own 20th century efforts at restoration). No amount of moral relativism and wishful thinking can change the fact that Elgin bought the marbles from their true owners at the time just about as fairly and squarely as it was possible to do then. And if anyone thinks otherwise, I'm sure there are some Native Americans who'd like to speak to them and would quite like their help in getting their continent back.

    I can see why Greece wants the Marbles back; I can see why some people would want Britain to return them. Maybe at some point down the line, that would be a good idea. But at a time when Greece's economy is in the toilet, museums are being robbed because of lack of security, archaeological services are being cut back and Greece has other nations' properties in its own museums, I'm not sure Greece can offer the best guardianship or even command a moral lead with regards to the Marbles.

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  2. Oh gods
    WHY did you write about this matter this weekend? i was at the museum on satureday and was thinking about this the whole day after the visit and admiring the parthenon marbles...and had the same idea that it isnt a good time to take them back.

    But well i hope one day they will rebuild the temples anyway...

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  3. @MediumRob: Thank you fr your in-depth analysis of the situation! I agree that this is perhaps not the right time for them to return home--but on the other hand, it might improve tourism and in that way stimulate the economy. Also, giving them back does not nessesarily have to mean they are returned right away. It could also be something that is only accomplished on paper.

    As for Greek museums having to give back their art items as well; I agree. I also do not think that would be a bad thing, at least not where logical. For countries or states that ceased to exist, this would obviously not be feasable.

    Elgin did what he thought best at the time, bt the main argument is that precious art pieces were removed from their homeland. Wether this was done legally is of influence, but as is stated in the video; it would be the classy thing to do, no matter if the purchase was valid.

    I fear that it will be a theoretical debate for a long time longer.

    And @Claudia, I am very sorry to add to your misery XD I hope you enjoyed your visit!

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  4. "Thank you fr your in-depth analysis of the situation!"

    @Elani: Thanks (yes, me again. Long story…)!

    "I agree that this is perhaps not the right time for them to return home--but on the other hand, it might improve tourism and in that way stimulate the economy."

    Well, I'm not sure about that. I can see that you might get Athenians visiting the museum, but that's not money coming into the economy, just Athenians being taxed an additional €2 each and so largely money being taken out of the economy to pay off overseas debtors, so I'm not sure it would be much of a boost.

    However, I doubt many people from outside Greece or even Athens will be thinking: 'Well, I wasn't going to go to Athens because it only has the Acropolis, the Temple of Hephaestus, the museums, the stadium, the agora, the Odeum, the Pnyx, and that spot where Saint Paul delivered his sermon. But now they've replaced those plaster casts of those pretty broken up relief marbles with the actual pretty broken up relief marbles, I'm going to go. I won't go to the Acropolis, obviously, because those Karyatids are just plaster casts, but that Acropolis Museum looks like the thing to visit now.'

    "As for Greek museums having to give back their art items as well; I agree. I also do not think that would be a bad thing, at least not where logical. For countries or states that ceased to exist, this would obviously not be feasable."

    That rule makes things tricky. Athens as a state ceased to exist in Roman times, when it became part of the Roman Empire and was largely happy. After that, for the best part of 1,000 years it was happy to be part of the Byzantine Empire. The desire for a Greek state only really emerged once the Ottomans took over and Greece only came into existence as a country 300 years or so after that. There is still no Athenian state, Roman state or Byzantine state to which the marbles could be returned.

    "Elgin did what he thought best at the time, bt the main argument is that precious art pieces were removed from their homeland. Wether this was done legally is of influence, but as is stated in the video; it would be the classy thing to do, no matter if the purchase was valid."

    I'm not sure it would be classy. It would be no classier than say, the Americans, giving us back London Bridge

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/London_Bridge#Sale_of_Rennie.27s_bridge_to_Robert_McCulloch

    or any amount of British art or treasures (that we also sold fairly and squarely to foreign buyers, or even that was seized during the American Revolution) being returned from overseas museums.

    Having said that, I've been to both the Acropolis Museum and the British Museum, I've seen the Elgin Marbles perhaps four or five times, and TBH, it wouldn't be a huge loss to Britain if we did give them back some day. They're nice but even within the same museum, you have more impressive Greek artefacts (The Temple of the Nereids being the most obvious). The Acropolis Museum would probably display them better, since it offers natural light and you can walk around the Elgin Marbles, rather than inside them under artificial light in the British Museum.

    So I think since the Greeks and the Greek government (largely, at this point, to have a patriotic rallying cry to distract people from the misery of the economy, their own issues of corruption and Golden Dawn's hijacking of Greek patriotism) want them back, it wouldn't hurt to get us some brownie points by giving them back, once we can be sure they'll be looked after properly (and let's not think too hard about what the Greek government is doing with the Parthenon on that score http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/24/world/europe/debt-ridden-greece-turns-to-sacred-sites-for-cash.html).

    I don't think we have any moral or legal obligation to do it and it's a good job that Elgin did take them, judging by how well the Greeks treated what was left, but if we get something nice in return, why not?

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